Editors note: Private businesses in the United States still retain the right to refuse service.

For the second time, our Justice4Jahar shirts were removed from the selling website. After the first "yanking" a representative of our organization called and spoke with one of their team inquiring as to why the shirt disappeared from their website. We were informed that given the gravity of the issue, and the controversial situation surrounding it, it was not a good fit as a "public" design but that we could relist the shirt as a "private" sale in which only those with a direct link could access. After explaining to their team member that we were a peaceful organization that promotes basic civil liberties, constitutional justice, and freedom of speech the team member seemed pleased to help us get started again.

However after getting the process rebooted, it appears whomever is managing their social media campaign had no idea that their own team member was working with us on a "private" listing. Nor does it look like they investigated our cause further proving that simple influence can go a long way if people aren't willing to think. You just need to glance at the shirt or read the first paragraph on our website to know that we are not a "free jahar" movement. Tweets below:
In addition, it was clearly explained by our representative that the design, slogans, and name were original artwork and proven not to be infringing upon any pre-existing filings. After going over the details necessary to relist the shirt, the team member even assisted us with ensuring any unexpected profit from the shirt sales would be sent directly to benefit victim's of the Boston event without ever changing hands. Later that evening, they worked with us to make shipping to the UK an option despite the fact that they didn't previously offer it. Everything looked good, right?
It appears that those that appear to be concentrated on anti-Jahar efforts missed the bold statement on our homepage, about page, and blog regarding our purpose. That we are not just about Jahar, but about the circumstances regarding his civil liberties that may have been stripped away during and after his arrest/capture. We are NOT conspiracy theorists, we do NOT present anything as fact, and our content is purely investigative for the purpose of open and proactive discussion.

These same anti-supporters are likely those that helped to influence our removal from the shirt sale website. We have been called the "safe zone" with regard to the Jahar movement, thousands have flocked to our cause because we're influencing change in thought and behavior without inciting hatred or violence. 

Take a look at the tweets below. We replied with "Do our shirts say free Jahar?" and have yet to receive a reply. Anyone can create a campaign? Shirts with "#FreeJahar" will not be printed? We can understand that, rightfully so, but our shirts clearly state "Justice4Jahar".

Edit: To clear the air, our movement is not a "free Jahar" movement. Our movement is to enforce Jahar's rights as an American citizen, regardless if he is proven to have committed the crimes he is charged with or not. Jahar deserves justice, it is his constitutional right just as it is ours. If this desire to ensure civil liberties for every American, regardless of race, creed, or color, is one that people are fearful of supporting, what do we have left to fight for?

So ask yourself, is this a clear signal that our roar is being heard? Ask yourself, is this the time you retreat to continuing to live in fear afraid to ask questions? Or, is this the time you start to make a difference and stand up for what you believe in?


Credit: Tumblr user "freedzokhar" made important points regarding the rules regarding private businesses that inspired recent edits to this piece. However, it's important to note that if the reason service was refused is that the business believes that in doing so would lead to disputes, why is it that by not doing so it doesn't lead to disputes? 
Prudence
5/7/2013 01:15:11 am

“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”

I'm very sorry to hear this. It's important in times like this to remain strong and steadfast in our cause. Even if we can speak to just one person, it's worth it. People see the face value and nothing more. They don't understand this isn't just about one person. It's about all people. It's about OUR rights as Americans.

I'm ready for whatever is coming our way.

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Jess
5/7/2013 02:44:30 am

This is the first time I feel really down. I wanted to cry. People are refusing to open their minds. I won't say they won't open their eyes, because that is rude and assumptive. But they won't open their minds to even think about the other side of the story, or past what we've been told. Everyone got comfortable the day those pictures of the Tsarnaev brothers were released. And everyone's mind shut off the day the last brother was captured. Before there was any evidence, everyone said "that's it! There they are!" Never even taking one second to question "wait- why am I cheering? Why do I think it's them?" Today is the day I open my eyes, my heart sinks, and my pride diminishes- at the thought that my own country can be so ignorant, close minded, willing to give in so easy, willing to attack it's own citizens who think differently, and can miraculously disregard the American standard "Liberty and Justice for all."
Today I ask why our pledge says something that America will not uphold to.

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alwaysbreakforacrossingsquirrel
5/7/2013 02:50:56 am

I. Hate. Them. :)

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Prudence
5/7/2013 03:45:41 am

Hate always breeds more hate. I think in situations like this, we should just hope for the better in people and not waste time on those who want to remain ignorant.

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NotAFanboy
5/7/2013 04:42:27 am

Why must you all be so stupid. If you want to stand for civil rights then go after a big picture issue. Stop acting like a fandom of someone who could be a mass murderer, or an accomplice to murder. So what if you can't sell a shirt for one idiot who may have been in the wrong place at the wrong time? I've seen nothing more than this free Jahar nonsense. Nothing else to do with your "Civil rights" organization. Why not go find someone else who is being tried for murder and claim that they are innocent? Those of you who are trying to say this is about freedom of speech, bullshit. Try to get a shirt that says "Binladen was innocent." Same principal. Ethics is a basic business principal that you know nothing about.

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5/7/2013 04:55:21 am

Some things to consider:

> If the case for Jahar is not a "big picture" civil rights issue, we're not sure what is.

> No one /here/ is acting as a fandom

> The shirt, nor our campaigns, say "free Jahar", only occasionally tagged posts

> Do you have an example of someone currently being tried for murder who's civil rights were violated during arrest/capture?

> We are not stating Jahar is innocent, but we are, however, bringing light to his rights as an American citizen may have been violated

> You are right, someone with a shirt that says "Bin Laden was innocent" is just as entitled to their opinion as someone who starts their argument with "why must you all be so stupid".

> Ethics is not a basic business principal, ethics are a moral principles that govern a person's or group's behavior.

We hope you enjoyed your right to free speech by leaving your thought-inspiring comment.

NotAFanboy
5/7/2013 05:05:00 am

No matter what happens to him, nothing is going to change. The only thing that has changed is the life of the people effected by the bombings. Including the people who positively I.D'ed them. A big picture issue is one that changes the country. Not one that fills Twitter and Tumblr feeds. The fandom remark is due to the fact that you are obsessing over one topic. Plus, one of the major reasons I'm even posting this stuff is to test if you will remove them or not. I must say, I am very impressed. Once this stuff blows over, and you move onto something I believe is less conspiracy and treason, I may become more positively involved in this site. I understand that you can take what I say as an opinion, and I thank you for not calling me ignorant for believing differently then you.

NotAFanboy
5/7/2013 05:06:12 am

And, Ethics is a business principal. I've taken plenty of business classes.

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Prudence
5/7/2013 05:48:47 am

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. We're all different, we all think differently. This is an open forum for everyone to voice their opinions and thoughts, no matter if you think he's guilty or innocent. And you're right, perhaps nothing will change. Ask yourself this though...if no one ever said anything, if no one ever stood up for anything...what good would come of that? You have to at least try.

This country was founded on amazing principles and ideas. The older we get as a country, the less we seem to remember that. If this was your friend or brother or son, would you want them to have a fair chance?

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Audi alteram pa
5/7/2013 12:51:44 pm

Actually ethics did not originate as a business principle. Ethics is a branch of philosophy. I am college educated too, accounting.

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Watchful
5/13/2013 03:11:15 pm

I guess you failed spelling, though. Unless you're referring to the administrator at your school, I think you mean to say "business principle".

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anon
5/7/2013 12:25:20 pm

They're scared people will hear who printed the shirts and they'll lose business, it is as simple as that. They want to cover their own ass, and pretend it is strictly in support of Boston victims, so let them. Take your business elsewhere. There are plenty of printing places, I'm sure there's a business out there that will gladly take your money.

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Cicero
5/10/2013 09:11:10 pm

I have seen shirts that have been offensive, swear words, demeaning towards women, Sexist, Hate etc.. T-shirt places have no problem with that now do they. But Freedom of Speech on this.. really? Where are our amendments? Need to post some of the other tasteless shirts out there, I cant believe that this is what we come. Selective Free Speech. UGH.

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Prudence
5/11/2013 12:29:13 am

We're the minority in this situation. All the more reason to help people understand what we're really about and how we have everyones best interest at heart. The see it for the face value and then they're blind to everything else. We need to continue to spread the word and get them to see it's about justice for EVERYONE.

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Watchful
5/13/2013 03:12:19 pm

Have you tried other vendors, like cafepress.com?

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5/13/2013 10:59:11 pm

CafePress just pulled our shirts down, they were up there for a week.

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Jackie
5/16/2013 03:30:06 pm

I've always had great success with a website called www.spreadshirt.com You can choose from a variety of shirt types and either upload your own graphics or choose from theirs. You can select the font and color and quite literally say anything you want on the shirts.

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Yolo
5/29/2013 02:34:59 am

Minor stepping stone. If they wont sell the shirts, then use a solid color instead, and own it! *This just makes me want to get on plane and fly to Boston the week of the hearing! They will hear the Roar one way or another.

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Blake
6/20/2013 11:21:48 am

I can understand your anger, but an understand the business's response.

I am going to make myself very unpopular, but things need to be said...

There are cases where there are clkear travesties of justice. This is not one of them. You are fighting a campaign for 'civil liberties that may have been stripped away'. There is no hard evidence even that they 'may' have been stripped away.

This is not protecting rights, fighting for rights, because we know of no rights that have been denied to Jahar. Jahar has lawyers and due process to defend his rights.

There are causes from all over the world where there have been awful infringements of people's most basic rights. these are the causes that are worth fighting over, these are the causes where argument and action can persuade others to help.

The shirts, the protests without any just cause will, to the majority of Americans just seem like the most grotesque form of victim baiting.

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6/20/2013 11:47:35 am

@Blake - Well said. Some thoughts to consider:

1) The shirt thing is certainly understandable, it's happened more than this one time, and private business is private business. No worries. :)

2) This case presents a lot of grey area, we're interested in shining light on that and ensuring that there wasn't any foul play.

3) The demonstration on July 10 is for a number of things but the most important is for greater transparency for cases such as these and from our government's secret investigative bureaus.

Again, thank you for your response.

-WEARETHELION

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Blake
6/20/2013 10:44:33 pm

Thank you for the reasoned response.

"2) This case presents a lot of grey area, we're interested in shining light on that and ensuring that there wasn't any foul play."

Here I would tend to disagree. Bombs went off, suspects identified, suspects fled, armed chase, suspect arrested, exemption used, questioned, given access to lawyers, due process steps in.

Because this all happened in public, there has been a lot of press speculation and coverage. However the nitty gritty is that evidence is saved for trial and kept out of the public eye as much as possible - essential for fairness. Speculating on grey areas before discovery and trial has revealed full evidence for and against is futile and is just playing the same game as the worst of the media.

Also, how are you intending to do this? You would have to specify each grey area to make your message clear.

It seems that the bulk of "grey" areas mentioned here and on the net depend on there having been a government organised conspiracy against Jahar and Tamerlan. If this is the case, it is surely better to demonstrate when you have evidence, witnesses who will stand in the light by your side. Demonstrating because you think there are questions, when you do not know the answers, nor whether trial and discovery reveals the answers, nor really whether there are any questions to ask seems a very odd way of behaving. From their birth on , none of the big protesting organisations ( Amnesty, Greenpeace, Ban the Bomb etc) have ever fought without some solid cause/evidence on their side.

Just out of interest, how is your demonstration going to "ensure that there wasn't any foul play", again you need hard facts and truth as your arms, and you have neither.

"3) The demonstration on July 10 is for a number of things but the most important is for greater transparency for cases such as these and from our government's secret investigative bureaus. "

You want the whole judicial process restructured so that all evidence is revealed straight away? This will be an incredible step backwards for human rights and American Civil Rights.

Again, are you going to have posters etc all saying "We need More Government Transparency" or what, how are you going to make media or public aware that this is the central theme of your demonstration and that it it is nothing to do with innocence/guilt of the suspect in the Boston bombings? This you should do, otherwise you will not be projecting any message to the public.

An army fighting without a just cause is, in the public eye, nothing more than a murderous rabble.


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6/21/2013 12:49:15 am

@Blake - Fantastic comments, challenging to say the least, thank you for that. Additional thoughts:

"Because this all happened in public, there has been a lot of press speculation and coverage."

> This is exactly what our blog and forum is for. We want to help curb that speculation by providing a place for neutral discussion, without claiming anything as evidence. The "grey" area is the misinformed, misleading, and careless handling of information distribution by national news media and government officials.

"Also, how are you intending to do this? You would have to specify each grey area to make your message clear."

> Our #seektruth event was a great example of how we worked to specify the grey areas and make the message clear. Check it out by visiting the Events page of our website.

"It seems that the bulk of "grey" areas mentioned here and on the net depend on there having been a government organised conspiracy against Jahar and Tamerlan."

> We don't disagree that this is the bulk of it floating around, but we do very clearly state that we are not conspiracy theorist, we are neutral to the topics discussed, and have yet to point a finger in any one direction.

"You want the whole judicial process restructured so that all evidence is revealed straight away? This will be an incredible step backwards for human rights and American Civil Rights."

> Absolutely not. The judicial process, as it was intended, is fantastic. We want people, from both sides, to understand that "evidence" is something presented in a Federal Court of Law, not on the internet or by the media. We're with you 100% on this.

"...how are you going to make media or public aware that this is the central theme of your demonstration and that it it is nothing to do with innocence/guilt of the suspect in the Boston bombings?"

> Great thoughts, thank you. We are working more details into the event page and prior to distribution "gear" to attendees. This comment from you prompted a more detailed discussion as to the messaging and purpose of the event and we appreciate that. Our official statement is as follows: "We are there to demonstrate for greater transparency from the government, better accountability from its investigative bureaus, and the restoration and protection of the rights of the people."

In addition, we are working with select local press to communicate our purpose for being there, what our organization is about, and the principles we stand for.

Again, thank you for your comments.

-WEARETHELION

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Blake
6/21/2013 01:17:42 am

"We are there to demonstrate for greater transparency from the government, better accountability from its investigative bureaus, and the restoration and protection of the rights of the people."

Ok. But I do not see how the Boston Bombing case is connected to this. There will be reports/enquiries, on why the bombing happened, how the enquiry was handled. Before trial is not the right time to seek it. Wait for the reports and enquiries and then contest their findings.

Look at the Abner Louima case. It was the trial, the lawyers who unearthed the conspiracy by certain police officers. Let the law do its work and then contest the findings.

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Meghan Barton
6/26/2013 03:18:18 am

Out of curiosity, why do you not make and sell your own shirts? I know they are not as fancy, but in the end, wearing the shirts alone helps get the message out. Then to, people buying the shirts know that if there are any profits, the profits go to your cause. Or to help 'fancy them up' you could find someone who is not a business, but just a 'regular Joe' who knows how to do it 'professionally', or you could figure out how to do it 'professionally'.

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6/26/2013 03:26:10 am

@Meghan - We have been working toward something like that. However, at this time, we haven't found a way for someone to actually purchase an item from us legally that doesn't reveal the contact name and address of the account holder. The name and address must be associated with a real person when performing online transactions to prevent fraud.

We're open to suggestions/recommendations though!

-WEARETHELION

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